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Rampon 01-20-2009 12:10 AM

About Those Ammo Tins...
 
How the heck do ya open the darned things?

I was just organizing a few things and came across a few tins that I purchased some time ago at a gun show.

I don't think the dealer gave me an opener...unless it's inside one of the tins.

The devil is in the (small) details, huh?

Glad you guys/gals are here!

TIA

StrawMan=Corporation 01-20-2009 12:35 AM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
Do you remember what a can of Spam looked like before the pull tab ?

Most of the type pf ammo cans your speaking of need a KEY or have a small wire or cable embedded into the solder seal.

There should be either a tab to attach the key onto on the outside of the can or in the case of the pull wire or cable a small ring to pull.

BTW a pic of this can would help to be sure this is the kind you're talking about.

The markings on the can would also be helpful.

Blorp 01-20-2009 12:49 AM

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I used one of the can openers in the local gun shop when I bought mine. It was a pain in the rump to open. As a matter of fact you have just reminded me to grab an opener on ebay tonight.

Rampon 01-20-2009 12:50 AM

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Thanks StrawMan,
I remember those cans.
I'll go take another look...but is there supposed to be a key on the bottom or somewhere?
Will take another look-see if there is a rip-band type strip on the can.

Rampon 01-20-2009 12:52 AM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
What exactly do they call that opener on eBay?

StrawMan=Corporation 01-20-2009 12:57 AM

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There should be an opener but depending on how long the ammo has been around it might have been lost.

I'm not familiar with the opener on eBay.

They are not too firearms / related friendly from what I remember.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampon (Post 1520145)
Thanks StrawMan,
I remember those cans.
I'll go take another look...but is there supposed to be a key on the bottom or somewhere?
Will take another look-see if there is a rip-band type strip on the can.


Lars Ragnarsson 01-20-2009 01:07 AM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
There could be differences, but I remember the tin of 9mm that I got came with the opener loose in the cardboard box it came in. To the best of my recollection, it didn't look like a Spam can opener - more like a heavy-duty wrench-sized version of the can opener blade on a Swiss Army knife.

Also, I've seen the tins of 7.62 x 54R advertised on some sites, saying that you only get the opener if you order a full case, which is a crate of two 440 rd. tins. No opener if you only order half a case, or one tin.

I'd look for mine and try to describe it, but I'd have to dig for it and probably wake up the old lady while doing it, so.... Sorry!

Rampon 01-20-2009 01:12 AM

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Yeah, StrawMan...that appears to be an understatement.
I just took another look and the top appears to be crimped on...pretty tight.
Looks like this one is gonna take an opener of some type.
I just don't see how an opener could navigate around the tight radius corners.

Will a bayonet work, ya suppose?..Maybe one of my old John Waynes?

Glass 01-20-2009 01:12 AM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
pair of needle nose pliers? grab the strip and just keep turing the pliers wrapping the strip around them as you go.

If you're feeling lucky I suppose you could always dremel it.... or steam it open

Rampon 01-20-2009 01:18 AM

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Hmmm... I'd have to say we're "prepared"...just not what you'd call "Ready"
At least Barney could get to his bullet.
I can't get to "those" bullets though
BTW they're the 7.62x39...I think it said 700 rds on the one tin.

Lars Ragnarsson 01-20-2009 01:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampon (Post 1520176)
BTW they're the 7.62x39...I think it said 700 rds on the one tin.

I think that's what I have, though mine might be a 640 round tin.

If you can't find a real opener, you could probably get it done with an opener blade on a Swiss Army knife, or maybe even a P-38....

LowDow 01-20-2009 04:24 AM

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Here is a link to a picture. Click on it to enlarge. The knife edge goes on inside of lip and cuts it open the other hook side goes on outside of can and you rock it back and forth moving forward as you go.

http://www.buymilsurp.com/can-opener...ans-p-914.html

CrufflerJJ 01-20-2009 06:09 AM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampon (Post 1520108)
How the heck do ya open the darned things?

I was just organizing a few things and came across a few tins that I purchased some time ago at a gun show.

I don't think the dealer gave me an opener...unless it's inside one of the tins.

The devil is in the (small) details, huh?

Glad you guys/gals are here!

TIA

While you can use the official "can opener" tool that sometimes come with these spam cans, you can also just use a cold chisel & a hammer. Cut along the seam, remove lid. No fuss, no muss.

electric-amish 01-20-2009 09:18 AM

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Use ah hatchet:4_1_72:
I'm kidding of course--I've never heard of this comeing up and I'm glad you did. It will be something I look at in the shop I frequent.

Best to everyone this AM

E_A

JJ_ 01-20-2009 10:47 AM

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all mine have come with an opener similar to the one pictured in the link above...

But have you thought about one of these?-- im not kidding...

http://www.focuspg.com/itm_img/709-lg.jpg

Dixie 01-20-2009 11:09 AM

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I don't think a regular can opener would work.

I opened up one of these 7.62x39 tins 2 days ago with the ammo can knife that comes with the can. I think the lip would be a bit too high in order to use a regular can opener but you could give it a try.

The opener should have come free floating in the box (at least min did.) Mine was the Russian Wolf SKS can.

SLV>GLD 01-20-2009 12:56 PM

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A regular can opener will not work; I tried out of curiosity the other day. The doodad they send with the can works pretty well once you get into the swing of using and yes, its a pain around the corners. It does a good job of leaving behind a nice clean edge in the pan but the lid is dangerous stuff.

hypervel 01-20-2009 01:00 PM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
P-38 on 'roids.

SLV>GLD 01-20-2009 01:07 PM

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FWIW, I kept my pans as I figure they will make good pans to soak parts in mineral spirits or to mix paint or whatever. My wife might try to make planter boxes out of some.

The Argent Dragon 01-20-2009 02:11 PM

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You need one of these...........but I suppose any heavy-duty can opener would work.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1353/...0a1972.jpg?v=0

I got mine with (2) cans of ammo from AIM-Surplus. :wink:

SLV>GLD 01-20-2009 02:18 PM

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My opener came with a similar case of ammo. My case was way cooler though. It had a hinged lid with a screw-locked hasp and a wooden carry handle on each end. 880rds Bulgarian 7.65X54r via classicarms.us weighing in around 60# making those handles a real back-saver. I kept the case but don't have a plan for it yet. I may make it my air mattress carrier as it should protect against cuts. It so heavy duty though that I want a better use for it.

JJ_ 01-20-2009 02:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1520880)
A regular can opener will not work; I tried out of curiosity the other day. The doodad they send with the can works pretty well once you get into the swing of using and yes, its a pain around the corners. It does a good job of leaving behind a nice clean edge in the pan but the lid is dangerous stuff.

yeah... figures... it was worth a shot :biggrin:- I'd have tried it too if I needed to open a can - don't wanna pop any right now.

SLV>GLD 01-20-2009 02:34 PM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
All I could wonder while laboring with the opener was whether I'd be quicker or more error prone with rounds whizzing over my head. Those thoughts were enough to convince me to open them all and place the rounds in regular ole ammo boxes.

JJ_ 01-20-2009 02:36 PM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1521068)
All I could wonder while laboring with the opener was whether I'd be quicker or more error prone with rounds whizzing over my head. Those thoughts were enough to convince me to open them all and place the rounds in regular ole ammo boxes.


*snicker*


Yeah... that would need to be factored in for sure:biggrin:


I've got enough loose to load, on stripper clips and loaded mags for an initial assault:ok:


:RockOn:

TTAZZMAN 01-20-2009 04:29 PM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1521068)
All I could wonder while laboring with the opener was whether I'd be quicker or more error prone with rounds whizzing over my head. Those thoughts were enough to convince me to open them all and place the rounds in regular ole ammo boxes.


Those ammo tins are for my Deep Deep storage ussage. To have incase they come and confiscate my normal stock

Like i keep 10k rounds on the shelf easily accessable ....but the ammo tins MIGHT be sealed in a plastic pipe sunk in the pond, or septic tank...etc...with a firearm that will use them

it seems like i keep loseing all kinds of stuff like this lately i hate it when i lose stuff:biggrin:

CrufflerJJ 01-20-2009 04:37 PM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1521068)
All I could wonder while laboring with the opener was whether I'd be quicker or more error prone with rounds whizzing over my head. Those thoughts were enough to convince me to open them all and place the rounds in regular ole ammo boxes.

The Yugo ammo cases were nicely packaged. A zinc plated (soft) steel sheet metal box inside a wood crate. There is a wooden "T-handle" attached to a piece of wire sticking out of the metal box - pull it & the wire zips right through the sheet metal.

I guess you could always use an oxy-acetylene cutting torch. That might get a bit exciting, though.

Rampon 01-20-2009 06:34 PM

Re: About Those Ammo Tins...
 
Well, I can speak from experience now.

Had some reservations about it, but used a hammer and chisel to create a slit in the top large enough in one side to get a grip on the soft metal top with long slip pliers. (Wear ear protection in case a round goes off)

Then used leverage with a large screwdriver across the top to attempt to pry and roll the soft metal top off. Metal tore instead of rolling off evenly.

Looked like a monkey trying to... uhhh...ride a football.

Screwdriver slipped and I did a pretty good "number" on my fingers. That metal IS soft, but it does make sharp edges.

Purple Heart already and I ain't even seen battle yet.(and hope not to)

You guys be vewwwy careful.

I got in a little too much of a hurry and screwed up. Kind of a freak accident really. I'm normally more careful.

I did, however, finally win the battle.
That's my story,and I'm stickin' to it

WEAR GLOVES !

SLV>GLD 01-20-2009 07:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampon (Post 1521593)
WEAR GLOVES !

LOL, I would have thought of that well ahead of ear protection.

Rampon 01-20-2009 08:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1521743)
LOL, I would have thought of that well ahead of ear protection.

Shirly, you jest...
So ya think I was serious about that, huh?
DUH !


Oh, that should be "surely"...before you correct me.
Just trying to help

SLV>GLD 01-20-2009 10:19 PM

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I know who ShirleyUGeste is :) :) :) Apparently you know me as the grammar nazi. You know me well. ;)


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